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    Default Are all the barriers to the true mobile web finally crumbling?

    After I read the news about Adobe abandoning Flash I had a flash myself. http://news.discovery.com/tech/adobe...medium=twitter Could it be true that the path to the mobile web, the way we have discussed it here since 2006, could be finally becoming reality?

    1.The Apple walled garden is crumbling http://www.zdnet.com/blog/saas/apple...-cracking/1423
    2.There is much more talk about web apps and HTML5, but most sites will be static XHTML sites in the future (Don’t forget the little store next door that only needs a simple website 50% 60% 70%...).
    3.Users are complaining more about the slow mobile web (What they really are seeing are PC websites on their iPhones etc and not the true mobile web) http://publishing2.com/2007/09/26/fi...ile-web-sucks/
    4.There are so many guides about how to develop a mobile website. I have not found a better one so far than “dotMobi Mobile Web Developer's Guide”. http://pc.dev.mobi/files/dotMobi%20M...rs%20Guide.pdf
    5.I remember some of the first threads here and at NP about how third world countries will lead the mobile web. It’s happening today! http://www.dmconfidential.com/blogs/...arketing/1211/
    6.Remember back then how we said no matter how powerful smartphones will be the screen size will always create the need for specific mobile websites. This is still true today.
    7.The vision of dotMobi is becoming reality. I also agree that more aggressive marketing would have helped, but maybe the time wasn’t right. Wow! .co .xxx etc are taking off, but they don’t represent mobile, they only represent the lack of available .coms and cctlds. Don’t underestimate all the new generation mobile only websites. Google mentioned that over 70% of the business websites are not mobile friendly. My estimate is over 90% of the non business websites are not mobile friendly. If most .coms are used for PC websites what will be the preferable next choice for mobile? Take a guess. I knooow yooou caaan uuuse aaany doomain, but what will be the thing to have? Remember the .com success story. Wasn’t it possible to use any other domain back then as well?
    8.Too many thoughts with a gut feeling are difficult to express. I’m curious to see what the mobile future will be like in relation to our interests............mobi..

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    Thank you for spending time in compiling the different sources.

    Quote Originally Posted by freeflow View Post
    4.There are so many guides about how to develop a mobile website. I have not found a better one so far than “dotMobi Mobile Web Developer's Guide”
    For me, the best guide is still "Building iPhone Apps with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript" by Jonathan Stark. All my mobile sites use a template based on this book.

    I don't see any barrier. It's just time. We are still in the early stage of the transition from PC-centric to phone-centric sites. Once the tipping points arrives, I expect to see mobile site development taking the center stage.
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    The most frustrating thing is waiting for the tipping point. I have been waiting 5 years now and am 5 years older. I have given mobi so much of my time at a personal cost. I could have been doing so many other things but hey I'm still optimistic

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    Thank you, Freeflow. Those are great sources.

    ChinaMobi is right, it is just a matter of time.

    Noonoo, I am right there with you buddy. Early adopter fatigue is not a fun place to be.
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    You’re right about the waiting and paying pains of mobi for domainers. I’ve kept myself busy with development and reducing my portfolio every year that goes by and keeping only the best domains. I’m still trying to figure out why mobi is so different for domainers compared to other TLDs. Here are some of my thoughts.

    1. Mobi has become a very domainer unfriendly TLD. There was a short time in it’s 5 year life when it was great for domainers and there were many good sales. Was it 2007 or 2008? The big boom never happened, but this doesn’t mean it won’t. One thing I just realized: How could there have been a boom without the mobile web? The mainstream only wanted apps for the past years and there was hardly any interest in the mobile web. This delayed the interest for a mobile domain. This delay was the reason many domainers lost money and their patience with mobi. Don’t forget all the negative attitudes about mobi from the day it was created.

    2. Most other new TLDs had a better start, because the demand for web related domains was already there! No more good coms or other TLDs left? No problem there is .co and other TLDs to use as web domains. Let’s run to get them. Who needs a mobile domain or website, the web will be the biggest thing forever. No revenue with mobile websites or parking. How can there be with hardly anyone using the mobile web?

    3. Mobi started as a controversial domainer domain. Then it was abandoned by most domainers. Developers were only developing flower apps among other things. That’s why I think flowers.mobi never had a chance of being sold for a high price back then. Now slowly developers are becoming aware of the mobile web and of mobi. When the mobile web reaches critical mass the domainers might come back again. This is not a typical life cycle for a domain from a domainers perspective. If I’m not wrong it has been top or flop when a new TLD was created. Good = .co / Not Good = .tel / .mobi = What’s going on?

    4. My predictions for mobi: Sorry, but I think it will still take a few more years. But then it could become what we have imagined it should be.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeflow View Post
    Good = .co / Not Good = .tel / .mobi = What’s going on?

    4. My predictions for mobi: Sorry, but I think it will still take a few more years. But then it could become what we have imagined it should be.....
    No, there were very few .co domains used when it was administeredd by the Colombian government. It took off only after the relaunch with a very aggressive marketing campaign by entrepreneurs. By the same logic, .mobi can take off when some visionary entrepreneurs do a similar relaunch of .mobi.

    I remember Google predicted the switchover from PC-web to mobile web will be 2014, then mobile website development will become the mainstream. Voice-based search, wehn it becomes standard on most mobile phones, will be the key to tremendous growth in web search from mobile phones.

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    mobile web does not equal .mobi

    assuming or hoping it would is how domainers lost so much money - many thought they were staking a claim to exclusive real estate. This was property speculation that failed - the development took place somewhere else. .Mobi might have been a good bet if a lot of development and promotion, especially by big names, took place eary on and created a critical mass. It didn't happen and you can't force anyone to use a domain, especially one they see as confusing, unfamilar, long, and a handicap.

    I agree about the voice based search, I use this on Android for longer search terms and it works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeflow View Post
    The mainstream only wanted apps for the past years and there was hardly any interest in the mobile web. This delayed the interest for a mobile domain.
    I'm revisiting this thread and I'm seeing more interest in mobile websites as covered by another thread posted today.

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