Amazon aStore on mobile sites

[ChinaMobi]

I couldn't find this information from Google. Is it possible to build an Amazon aStore on a mobile site?

[gogo]

I couldn't find this information from Google. Is it possible to build an Amazon aStore on a mobile site?

Amazon's TOS are explicit that you cannot use their affiliates on mobile.

Also A-stores cannot be used standalone, they must belong to a developed site.

[ChinaMobi]

What a surprise! I thought they are very pro mobile and should encourage associates to promote their products.

On the other hand, I just found this URL pointing to their mobile site.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw

So, for mobile affiliates, which programs can I look at?

[ChinaMobi]

Amazon's TOS are explicit that you cannot use their affiliates on mobile.

Can you point me to the TOS document?

I checked the following URL but found no mentioning of "mobile site."
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...tes/agreement/

Also A-stores cannot be used standalone, they must belong to a developed site.

Does it mean the store must be part of a website? I recall I've seen one or two sites which were purely Amazon stores.

[gogo]

Can you point me to the TOS document?

I checked the following URL but found no mentioning of "mobile site."
https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...tes/agreement/


Does it mean the store must be part of a website? I recall I've seen one or two sites which were purely Amazon stores.

http://techcrunch.com/2009/07/07/ama...-use-its-data/

Yes the A-store must be part of a website, but whether they enforce that I do not know.

[ChinaMobi]

Now for argument sake, suppose mobile sites cannot participate in the Amzaon affliate program. The question becomes: how can you determine whether a site is mobile or not?

1. The extension .mobi does not automatically qualifies a site as a mobile site, because you can use this extension to develop PC sites as well.

2. There is no required information in your web files to identify itself. If I just write in HTML5 for example, there's no distinction between mobile and PC sites.

Regarding the requirement that aStore must be part of a website. Now, how do you measure the degree of "part"? Does having a Contact page plus About Me page qualify you?

[gogo]

http://mobility.mobi/showthread.php?...ile-affiliates

Have a look at that earlier thread for more info about devices and clicks.

[ChinaMobi]

unless you put a message on your pc site saying "we do not want mobile users, ever, please go away if you are on a mobile device".

Or just "This site has been optimised for the PC experience and may not work on mobile devices"...

Thanks gogo for the link. What you said is exactly what I was thinking. I thought Amazon would not do that, but your message is clear. How stupid this idea is! Now that increasing number of usres are accessing the web via their phones, many PC sites will lose their affiliate revenue.

Now, where can I go? Clickbank?

[ChinaMobi]

This is what I've found.

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Amazon.com Product Advertising API License Agreement
Last updated on 2009-12-18.

(e) You will not, without our express prior written approval, use any Product Advertising Content on or in connection with any site or application designed or intended for use with a mobile phone or other handheld device.


Associates Program Operating Agreement
Updated: 1 June 2010. (Current Associates: See what's changed)

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The Associates Program does not mention banning sites intended for use by mobile phones. As an affiliate, am I also bound by the API agreement? Have I even agreed to the API agreement during my signup to become an affiliate?

[ChinaMobi]

Found a document that mentions the ban.

Associates Program Participation Requirements
7. You will not, without our express prior written approval, use any Content or Special Link, or otherwise link to the Amazon Site, on or in connection with any site or application designed or intended for use with a mobile phone or other handheld device.

[Tim]

To reiterate my point about Amazon mobile - I have spent several occasions with them on the phone drilling down the question about mobile commissions in conjunction with more than 50,000 clicks without a single sale - the truth of the matter is they will not commission a single penny if it is derived from a mobile device. If that is not clear enough to end the discussion about Amazon on your mobile site, then twirl away my whirling dervish.

[gogo]

So, for mobile affiliates, which programs can I look at?

Anything with an API.

Ebay earns but I don't think they accept new members any more, everyone gets rejected so do not count on them, and they ban people with no warning - check this out http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/...te-network.htm

AFAIK few people make money from Amazon, - their cookie only lasts 24 hours, other affiliates typically last much longer.