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    Quote Originally Posted by coast View Post
    On the flip side, if Afilias can reduce the price of .mobi enough for it to be competitive with .com but not so cheap as to dilute it, everyone could have a winner on their hands if renewals are priced lower to match.
    I think it would wise to accept the fact that .mobi will never be competitive with .com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanboy View Post
    I think it would wise to accept the fact that .mobi will never be competitive with .com.
    I disagree. The days of .com as we know it will surely come to an end. It will start with more users accessing the internet on mobiles vs. pc. As the tide shifts away from the pc, and it will, .com will be carried out to sea and a new wave of internet access will be ushered in. Whether or not .mobi takes it's place who knows. My guess is it will be several varieties including .mobi, apps, m. and so forth.
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    On a side note, I'm pleased to see
    http://www.afilias.mobi
    resolve...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithmt View Post
    I disagree. The days of .com as we know it will surely come to an end. It will start with more users accessing the internet on mobiles vs. pc. As the tide shifts away from the pc, and it will, .com will be carried out to sea and a new wave of internet access will be ushered in. Whether or not .mobi takes it's place who knows. My guess is it will be several varieties including .mobi, apps, m. and so forth.
    Well considering the majority of mobile web traffic is going to .com, your argument seems flawed. The tide moving away from PC to mobile has NOTHING to do with the adoption of .mobi. The age of mobile is already here. It began back in 2007 with the launch of the iPhone (which was the real game changer in mobile). Since then, we have seen a huge migration to mobile devices, and .mobi has has little to nothing to do with it.

    For example, Facebook recently announced that they had reached 100 million visitors to their mobile site, and that it was growing faster than their desktop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by photoman View Post
    On a side note, I'm pleased to see
    http://www.afilias.mobi
    resolve...

    You know what; Sometimes it's the little things that mean everything!
    Well spotted

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithmt View Post
    I disagree. The days of .com as we know it will surely come to an end. It will start with more users accessing the internet on mobiles vs. pc. As the tide shifts away from the pc, and it will, .com will be carried out to sea and a new wave of internet access will be ushered in. Whether or not .mobi takes it's place who knows. My guess is it will be several varieties including .mobi, apps, m. and so forth.
    Yeah, I have to agree with Seanboy here: a move from PC to mobile for the hardware with which we view Web content has nothing to do with the extension used to display the content. While there's still plenty of room for .mobi to grow, most of it won't be at .com's expense.

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    Seanboy I didn't say the tide would shift to mobi but rather a variety of alternatives other than .com. I would be willing to bet that facebook is accessed more via it's mobile app than by people going to facebook.com on their phones. As a mobile facebook user I could care less about facebook.com and the fact that facebook originated as a .com has no relavance. As more people shift to mobile, facebook.com will become an afterthought and it will simply be known as facebook. Btw I just typed in facebook.com on my iPhone and got touch.facebook.com which resolved to a blank page. If you think the majority of people will access the mobile web in the future by simply going to keyword.com then you are sadly mistaken.

    Ok now facebook finally resolved after a handful of attempts. My app works every time and nowhere does it say facebook.com.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanboy View Post
    Well considering the majority of mobile web traffic is going to .com, your argument seems flawed. The tide moving away from PC to mobile has NOTHING to do with the adoption of .mobi. The age of mobile is already here. It began back in 2007 with the launch of the iPhone (which was the real game changer in mobile). Since then, we have seen a huge migration to mobile devices, and .mobi has has little to nothing to do with it.

    For example, Facebook recently announced that they had reached 100 million visitors to their mobile site, and that it was growing faster than their desktop. Their mobile site is built on a .com. Of course, this news, like any other news to do with social media and the mobile web, was ignored on this forum.

    I can't believe that after all these years, the same tired argument that myself and others fell for in 2006 ("...more mobile users than PC, blah blah, .com is dead, blah blah, .mobi pwns, blah blah...") is still floating around these boards.

    I disagree Seanboy,

    The world is going mobile = agreed.
    The worlds web space is predominantly non-mobile = agreed.
    The non-mobile web content can be viewed on a smartphone = agreed.
    The web doesn't need dotmobi for mobile content = agreed.

    However:
    The way the current webspace is set-up, much of the monetization doesn't suit a small screen! (loads of ads etc.. just isn't viable on a small device... users hate it! = Do we agree on this?

    Regardless of dotmobi - the webspace needs to adapt if existing sites are to successfully monetize via small screen devices! = Do we agree on this?

    Given the sea change in internet access via small screen and given that this shift is in its infancy, do you feel that there is a need to provide bespoke mobile content / apps / services to users that will compliment 'main sites'? (Instead of there simply being a push to somehow squeeze all that we have right now into a 4"x2" space?)
    And that the options are auto-detect, m. /mobile & .mobi.... and that dotmobi offers developers and marketers a neat way to this?
    = Do we agree on this as a realistic potential growth area?

    dotcom isn't everything and only time will show us.... but country codes are gaining ground & .mobi is still kinda cute for any sites 'mobile sidekick' as far as branding goes (in my own very humble opinion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by photoman View Post
    On a side note, I'm pleased to see
    http://www.afilias.mobi
    resolve...
    I admire your focus on the bright side

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    Given the sea change in internet access via small screen and given that this shift is in its infancy, do you feel that there is a need to provide bespoke mobile content / apps / services to users that will compliment 'main sites'? (Instead of there simply being a push to somehow squeeze all that we have right now into a 4"x2" space?)
    absolutely ..... they have to

    here's where i think it will end:

    smartphone 3.7" screen
    tablet 10" screen
    laptop 15"-17" screen
    desktop 20" 24" 27" 30" (getting bigger and bigger all the time ...i think the average desktop screen will come to rest at about 24" ...apart from a minority which will be doing the 50" on the couch thing)

    you can't design content that works on a 24" screen and a 3.7" screen at the same time, it has to be a separate site whether a .m or mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by dagersh View Post
    Yeah, I have to agree with Seanboy here: a move from PC to mobile for the hardware with which we view Web content has nothing to do with the extension used to display the content. While there's still plenty of room for .mobi to grow, most of it won't be at .com's expense.
    It already is at .coms expense and we have not even begun to scrape the surface of the mobile web. If it was'nt at .coms expense then there would be no need for m., mobi, apps... All of that takes away from .com in the traditional sense.

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    This is very good news indeed, one owner one focused direction. I've had 5 partners at one point and that left me a bad taste in my mouth.

    Thanks Vance for the great news, its a bit of a relief to be honest. I was getting a little worried.

    2010 is the year of .mobi


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    Same S H I T Diff toilet

    poltics and mobi dont mix like 2 d ic ks find ya self in some serieuz ****

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    Quote Originally Posted by noonoo1 View Post
    I've had 5 partners at one point and that left me a bad taste in my mouth.
    i'm not surprised,
    cold sores too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pred View Post
    i'm not surprised,
    cold sores too?
    LOL you beat me to it LOL so many lines, so little time lol
    The speed of light is faster than sound that's why some people appear bright until they open their mouths

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    OH SNAPS!


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    Quote Originally Posted by newton View Post
    LOL you beat me to it LOL so many lines, so little time lol


    I just re-read it, lol,

    Between you guys and Rab C Nesbit, i havent stopped laughing, great!
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    After ten minutes of typing questions and anecdotes and revisions I resolved to this: who cares anymore. I'm on board with the bitter Canadians - just build something already.


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    Seanboy, I was referring to competitive pricing. Kindly take out your aggression elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HipHop.mobi View Post
    Same S H I T Diff toilet

    poltics and mobi dont mix like 2 d ic ks find ya self in some serieuz ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    After ten minutes of typing questions and anecdotes and revisions I resolved to this: who cares anymore. I'm on board with the bitter Canadians - just build something already.
    We love you too Tim
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    I'm back!!!

    This should be a wake up call for those unsure about the future of .mobi. It's not getting any better and you only need to take a closer look to see what does this means

    If the previous owners did not want to continue with .mobi was because they did not "see" much success for the future.

    Would you sell your business if it is giving a lot profit each year and it gets better each year? Most of us would not do it right.

    Even .com is losing grounds with country codes domain names. There is plenty of opportunities with these extension don't bother with .mobi if you're are planning to flip them later.

    .MX has plenty of great name available and in few years they will become very popular than the .coms. Invest your money where it will count many times more. .com or your country codes is the way to go and you cant go wrong with either one.

    We already have about 3 years with .mobi and this news just add another blow to some of us that have a shaky confidence.

    Good luck everyone!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by coast View Post
    Seanboy, I was referring to competitive pricing. Kindly take out your aggression elsewhere.
    Since when is it aggressive to give an opinion?
    Last edited by seanboy; 02-12-2010 at 01:31 AM.

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    Damn the time zones....just got this news...!!


    My first thought is...


    Its not ownership of an organisation that usually really matters...

    ...Its the managers of the business on the ground, that matters - their talent, their drive, their 'vision', their competence - and, their strategy.


    If the '.mobi division', within Afilias, remains under the day to day control of the same managers - then expect, perhaps, a higher budget - but, delivering the same 'vision'.......More of the same, usually gives you more of the same.


    So, for me....the key thing to watch for, is key PEOPLE changes (or not)...



    My second thought is...


    Bigger company resources is good - ie more potential 'grunt'....But...


    ...Being a small(er) cog in a bigger wheel usually also means 'bureaucracy'.....ie less ability to dance fast - react sharply to opportunity - be creative - and, decision-making slows down.

    But, as I understand it, the multi-partner structure of the previous Dotmobi set up, meant it was like herding cats, anyway.....Probably unworkable....So, maybe, the decision-making system has been poor all along, anyway.


    ....and mobile, especially, needs a fast, creative, on-the-front-foot, management mentality, 'cos its moving so fast.


    The jury's out, imo, as to whether this change will just replace one cumbersome, unworkable structure, with another...?....With the same result.


    My third thought is...


    Afilias probably got Dotmobi cheap - and 950,000 regs per year probably gives them an acceptable annual return on their outlay - without having to do much more...


    If so - and, given Afilias' lack of real promo for, say, .info & .Asia - don't expect a lot of creative, innovative, go-get-the-mobile-market action, for the .mobi brand from this.


    I'll watch this space closely....

    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by noonoo1 View Post
    I've had 5 partners at one point and that left me a bad taste in my mouth.
    noonoo, I want to thank you for one of the best laughs I've had so far this year.

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    in case you didn't know this is playing out on The Office.


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    afilias will not promote .mobi
    they after 10 years built a half arsed site that gets little to no traffic at info.info

    however it is 4th biggest extension in world. i would love it if the 'sponsors' could be f$cked off out of it, then it could have a pop at being a gtld rather than an stld, with afilias behind it, subject to icann backing naturally
    although the way my .mobi 'sales' are going it's feeling more like an std
    irritable, itchy and it's started weeping

    tbh had we known about this we could have pooled our resources but of course were kept in the dark and fed................
    mushroom.mobi anyone?

    mind you, poolling our resources to buy mtld may not have gone too far.
    i mean, what does a kit kat, half a bag of wotsits, and 42 pence in sterling buy you these days?

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    Default On-line and mobile web domains merge as .info eats .mobi - GoMo News


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