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    Well, it's taken a short while, like a few months but finally my new download site is starting to pick up organic traffic for what I'd consider to be hardcore keywords:

    two word term - number 39 .com number 25 uk
    117,000,000 results

    three word term - number 9 .com number 7 uk
    30,200,000 results

    Ok, I know being on page two or three is only going to bring in a minimal number of uniques but I'm buzzing about being up quite high up there with the number of results there are.

    As it stands right now I'm guessing it's mainly on page factors that have us ranked, that makes me wonder how we'll rank like once Google has fully digested the content we have on offer.

    There are over five million pages in the site maps I've submitted and so far Google only has 436,000 pages indexed.

    So, if less than ten percent of my content is indexed and we're ranking well for the heavy, hard to reach terms what happens when Google have fully digested the full depth of my content?

    I think it's pretty exciting but still can't wait till Google opens the floodgates on the real traffic for me!

    Last edited by andymoore; 04-09-2010 at 06:36 AM. Reason: removed the keywords i'm going for to replace them with generic values
    Andy Moore
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    Nice job, Andy!

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    Congratulations Andy, all that work is starting to pay off!

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    Nice to see you working again, btw.

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    ranking on hard or competitive keywords so you want to do better work for these keywords because competitive keywords want good and lot of work like do directory submission and article submit and bookmarking these keywords so that they can get backlinks and increase his backlinks and get soon ranking i see many site they have hard keywords but they get ranking like delhi games and commonwealth games keywords they get high ranking

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    nice work.. competitive keywords on the .mobi extension can be difficult, keep up the link building!!

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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by johnhudson View Post
    ranking on hard or competitive keywords so you want to do better work for these keywords because competitive keywords want good and lot of work like do directory submission and article submit and bookmarking these keywords so that they can get backlinks and increase his backlinks and get soon ranking i see many site they have hard keywords but they get ranking like delhi games and commonwealth games keywords they get high ranking
    Keyword combinaations is the key to rank better and get the broadband of traffic.

    Combinations from 2 and 3 words like : mobile mp3 downloads, michael jackson lyrics, and so on

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    Hi Harry,

    Welcome along to mobility, you're 100% right about the keyword combinations, the long tail is core though I've found the broader the range of keywords you're going for the harder you'll find it to get your deepest content indexed.

    I've roughly 250,000 keywords that have generated traffic for me on this project in the last 12 months, that's a lot but only the tip of the iceburg so to speak.

    Last month this one site pulled in 105,000 uniques on the website and 85,000 uniques on the mobile site. I feel there were more mobile site users as I'm not impressed with mobile analytics; so many users share user agents and IP addresses, plus referrer information and other headers are often stripped back by some carriers wanting to save on the data they have flying around.

    The maths on the possible keyword combinations could be mind boggling!

    200,000 recording artists
    400,000 singles and albums
    3,750,000 songs
    1,300,000 lyrics
    50,000 ringtones

    We're looking at a lot of possible search terms, well over 5,000,000 on page, in title and in URL keywords plus millions more combinations. As you say it's built around dowonloads, lyrics and ringtones so there are many permutations of terms that are sources of traffic.

    When I run a "site:URL inurl:URL" I get 4,050,000 results, when I run a "site:URL" alone it shows 401,000 results so they've got about 10% of the pages they are aware of in the index and they're aware of about 80% of the pages.

    Still, educating Google to that elusive 20% of pages they aren't aware of and getting all the pages on the site in the index are a tough job.

    Time is a friend when it comes to SEO but as I said earlier it's easier to think of a comet like long tail than it is to get one fully indexed and bringing traffic!

    Cheers

    Andy Moore
    i don't do tech / mobi anymore - why do something that annoys and stresses lol

    New: Most Minty Tooth Oil - GMO and fluoride free toothpaste alternative

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    http://locationdetection.mobi/ - Detect a mobile browser's latitude & longitude
    http://andymoore.info/mysql-lyrics-database/ - Half a million lyrics


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    Roughly 7,000 uniques a day at the moment.
    Andy Moore
    i don't do tech / mobi anymore - why do something that annoys and stresses lol

    New: Most Minty Tooth Oil - GMO and fluoride free toothpaste alternative

    100% natural botanical extracts to whiten teeth, freshen breath and strengthen gums
    Used, recommended and sold by Harley Street private dentists

    My other websites:

    http://sellyoursongs.info/ - Sell Your Songs using Mobile Payments
    http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - Detect Mobile Browsers
    http://andymoore.info/m-commerce-php/ - M-Commerce PHP (sell stuff on the mobile web)
    http://locationdetection.mobi/ - Detect a mobile browser's latitude & longitude
    http://andymoore.info/mysql-lyrics-database/ - Half a million lyrics


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    Yesterday 6,220 on desktop plus 3,069 on mobile.

    9,289 uniques in total yesterday.

    It's getting there.

    I want about 30,000 uniques a day, a long way to go.......
    Andy Moore
    i don't do tech / mobi anymore - why do something that annoys and stresses lol

    New: Most Minty Tooth Oil - GMO and fluoride free toothpaste alternative

    100% natural botanical extracts to whiten teeth, freshen breath and strengthen gums
    Used, recommended and sold by Harley Street private dentists

    My other websites:

    http://sellyoursongs.info/ - Sell Your Songs using Mobile Payments
    http://detectmobilebrowsers.mobi/ - Detect Mobile Browsers
    http://andymoore.info/m-commerce-php/ - M-Commerce PHP (sell stuff on the mobile web)
    http://locationdetection.mobi/ - Detect a mobile browser's latitude & longitude
    http://andymoore.info/mysql-lyrics-database/ - Half a million lyrics


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    When you visit Expert views About Competitors Keyword is good before optimize your web page, need to Use Google Trend inform you which Keyword Traffic increase now. this is Latest method that google Appear for Suggestion your brand traffic. Competition not target For a Business organise need to increase Product Sale without Traffic source you can't target any Quarry.....

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    great job, Andy! Congrats.
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    bÃ*i vi?t r?t hay. lâu r?i m?i có bÃ*i nhu v?y

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    Thanks for such awesome post.. It helps me alot in my working area..

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    Quote Originally Posted by andymoore View Post
    There are over five million pages in the site maps I've submitted and so far Google only has 436,000 pages indexed.

    So, if less than ten percent of my content is indexed and we're ranking well for the heavy, hard to reach terms what happens when Google have fully digested the full depth of my content?

    I think it's pretty exciting but still can't wait till Google opens the floodgates on the real traffic for me!

    I think that in fact many of those pages are low quality and the latest updates of Google's Panda are affecting you, making your whole site only 10% visible to Google's ranking algorithm. Try to change the quality up a bit...

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