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Drakosha
01-10-2011, 01:25 PM
Hello, I would like to share my experience and also to ask to share your experience.
I am running one start-up with low budget for advertising. Could you please share any alternative, but ethical ways of attracting new visitors?

1. For now I am using some mobile ads exchange systems like:
Hitcross.com - also it's possible to buy clicks for very low price. Good enough targeting and good quality of users - high returning rate, high registrations rate, etc.
Vivamob.net - banners exchange. I also was surprised by high quality of users.
Actually I was surprised, that those small non professional ads networks deal with fake clicks and fake users better than Admob or any other giant.

2. Ads exchange with other popular sites.

3. Driving through Facebook and other social networks.

4. Connections with mobile operators and dealing about advertising of product in operators mobile site.

Could you please give any more "free" advertising ideas?

*james*
01-10-2011, 02:27 PM
Mobile SEO - not easy to make this work though especially with a mobile-only site

morse
01-11-2011, 06:44 PM
As expected a veil spamming attempt with regards to hitcross.com, anyways the more such posts occur, the more the system will get relevant with spam scam!

Drakosha
01-11-2011, 08:49 PM
Dear morse,
thank you for comment, but I am not spammer.I have nothing in common with Hitcross, or any other advertising network I have mentioned in this forum. According to your logics, administrators should ban everybody who mentioned Admob, Admoda or any other network. But thanks god, seems that administrators are clever people and understand that references to any other sites (links) are not always spam. It can be simple experience sharing . If my experience was good with Hitcross and bad with Admob - I am not afraid to share it, because I think it can be useful to other people.
And thank's god, that when I started to work in mobile projects development, there were some experienced people who shared their knowledge and useful links. And thanks god there were some forums like mobility.mobi where it was allowed to post those useful links ;)

morse
01-12-2011, 07:48 AM
Dear morse,
thank you for comment, but I am not spammer.I have nothing in common with Hitcross, or any other advertising network I have mentioned in this forum. According to your logics, administrators should ban everybody who mentioned Admob, Admoda or any other network. But thanks god, seems that administrators are clever people and understand that references to any other sites (links) are not always spam. It can be simple experience sharing . If my experience was good with Hitcross and bad with Admob - I am not afraid to share it, because I think it can be useful to other people.
And thank's god, that when I started to work in mobile projects development, there were some experienced people who shared their knowledge and useful links. And thanks god there were some forums like mobility.mobi where it was allowed to post those useful links ;)
Since you have opened a can of worms drakosha and I very well know who is using this id, here is the lay down why hitcross is junk.
1) There are hardly any sites linking with the adserve page of Hitcross.
2) The sites which link to hitcross have illegal material content on them.
3) The site hitcross does not even look professional, does not have a web interface.
4) You will be naming hitcross in every other post you make here and in a matter of time your signature would also end up carrying its link, thus your views turn out to be very much fake.
5) I happen to know the idiot who runs Hitcross and he is quite a racist :) and yea it just might just happen that the guy will either register here after reading this post or you will start saying stuff here.
6) The site hitcross does not have any address associated with it,not in its whois neither anywhere inside. If somebody deals in terms of money there needs to be an address to reach, but such is not the case with hitcross. If somebody gets spoofed they have nowhere to go.

morency
01-12-2011, 08:58 AM
all this small ad companies SUX , fake traffic ... Tested all , using cookies and link variables ...
I dont have nothing with this site owner , but I have the right to write a review .

Hitcross use admob ads on own site?? more unprofessional than this what can be ?? :-?

//
ONTOPIC:
Good sites
Besttop.mobi
Waptrack.net
(most traffic is from india :-/ )

Also mobpartner for banner exchange .. Less indian traffic ... Very good .

The best way , IMHO , is to buy ads on sites without using intermediary companies. (worked for me every time)

morse
01-12-2011, 09:32 AM
all this small ad companies SUX , fake traffic ... Tested all , using cookies and link variables ...
I dont have nothing with this site owner , but I have the right to write a review .

Hitcross use admob ads on own site?? more unprofessional than this what can be ?? :-?

//
ONTOPIC:
Good sites
Besttop.mobi
Waptrack.net
(most traffic is from india :-/ )

Also mobpartner for banner exchange .. Less indian traffic ... Very good .

The best way , IMHO , is to buy ads on sites without using intermediary companies. (worked for me every time)

Every word posted above is true, Indian traffic is like the least paying traffic in the entire world and is not good for converting hits into sales. Ad companies pay less than even peanut value for such.
As for the hitcross owner stuff, even i dont actually have problems with that guy, but i do have problems when he makes such postings in the form of a third user. That kinda makes it all a sham affair.

rep+ for the post

Drakosha
01-13-2011, 02:48 AM
Well, let me share my point of view... You say you know me, but I am not sure, because I don't know you. :) And I don't think we have ever met before. But anyway it is not important. As I see - you can predict future (my posts ), so perhaps you can predict my personality via distance also. World is full of miracles. :)

I am sure, that the biggest problem of such "old wulfs" like you - your possition and snobism. "Doesn't look pr***esional" sounds reasonable if you are working for Coca-Cola or any other big corporation, where image is one of the main criterias in choosing partners. For me - result and costs are the main criteria. And customer care also.
Your arguments sounds like you have never used Admob, Inmobi or any other "pr***essional networks". I have personally reported to Admob several times that my ads are visible in porno sites, created on wen.ru or some other creator...And believe me - this material wasn't legal. Furthermore - I have all Admob contacts details, but I have never got response to 50% my requests. And yes, Hitcross has gmail mailbox (very unprofessional), but I have got replies in 24 for all my requests.
I don't think Hitcross is dedicated to pr***essional advertisers with very budgets. It is dedicated to newbies, startups or personal sites. So wake up man - how many % of population in Asia and Africa have pc? They create sites, drive them via phones. And they even can't use those big professional systems without normal mobile interface.

So you should understand - there are old wolfs and starters. Budgets, possibilities and targets are different to both those groups. So I don't know if Hitcross guy is racist (sad to hear that), but you have lack of tolerance too. Try to understand that people, their targets and possibilities are different.
Peace.

p.s. Sorry for annoyance from my side, but it annoys when you are pointing like I am Hitcross owner or something like that.


Since you have opened a can of worms drakosha and I very well know who is using this id, here is the lay down why hitcross is junk.
1) There are hardly any sites linking with the adserve page of Hitcross.
2) The sites which link to hitcross have illegal material content on them.
3) The site hitcross does not even look professional, does not have a web interface.
4) You will be naming hitcross in every other post you make here and in a matter of time your signature would also end up carrying its link, thus your views turn out to be very much fake.
5) I happen to know the idiot who runs Hitcross and he is quite a racist :) and yea it just might just happen that the guy will either register here after reading this post or you will start saying stuff here.
6) The site hitcross does not have any address associated with it,not in its whois neither anywhere inside. If somebody deals in terms of money there needs to be an address to reach, but such is not the case with hitcross. If somebody gets spoofed they have nowhere to go.

Drakosha
01-13-2011, 03:07 AM
Waptrack gives big traffic, but only small part of visitors come back again :(
And regarding buing ads directly - yes, it is the best solution, despite it takes a lot of time - it almost always gives good results.


all this small ad companies SUX , fake traffic ... Tested all , using cookies and link variables ...
I dont have nothing with this site owner , but I have the right to write a review .

Hitcross use admob ads on own site?? more unprofessional than this what can be ?? :-?

//
ONTOPIC:
Good sites
Besttop.mobi
Waptrack.net
(most traffic is from india :-/ )

Also mobpartner for banner exchange .. Less indian traffic ... Very good .

The best way , IMHO , is to buy ads on sites without using intermediary companies. (worked for me every time)

morse
01-13-2011, 08:04 AM
Well, let me share my point of view... You say you know me, but I am not sure, because I don't know you. :) And I don't think we have ever met before. But anyway it is not important. As I see - you can predict future (my posts ), so perhaps you can predict my personality via distance also. World is full of miracles. :)
Well, your passion for a sham network which does not even have a communication address endorses the possibility that either you are the owner of that network or a guy who is working for it , anyways in both cases - you are guiding newbies to a junk advertising network.


I am sure, that the biggest problem of such "old wulfs" like you - your possition and snobism. "Doesn't look pr***esional" sounds reasonable if you are working for Coca-Cola or any other big corporation, where image is one of the main criterias in choosing partners. For me - result and costs are the main criteria. And customer care also.
Yes of-course, I am one of those fundamentally strong people who does not like to deal with racist, socially disgusted people and the likes of which sometimes even includes stupid people :) . If you take so much pride in dealing with the above mentioned likes, its your own shrewd personal choice. I reckon, you called my attitude as 'snobism', well I can tell that you are grammatically incorrect person :) and that would not be a hyped statement :) .


Your arguments sounds like you have never used Admob, Inmobi or any other "pr***essional networks". I have personally reported to Admob several times that my ads are visible in porno sites, created on wen.ru or some other creator...And believe me - this material wasn't legal. Furthermore - I have all Admob contacts details, but I have never got response to 50% my requests. And yes, Hitcross has gmail mailbox (very unprofessional), but I have got replies in 24 for all my requests.
Well, maybe the "pr***essional networks" as you so splendidly put it, in an innovative way, (i have no idea, why there is an extra 'F' there) might have regarded your 'support' query simply unimportant to even consider. For your info, I am well versed with the so called professional networks and have had my ways with them. Sham companies always reply the fastest as they wish to setup a fake credibility in initial stages, so this type of support does not amaze me.


I don't think Hitcross is dedicated to pr***essional advertisers with very budgets. It is dedicated to newbies, startups or personal sites. So wake up man - how many % of population in Asia and Africa have pc? They create sites, drive them via phones. And they even can't use those big professional systems without normal mobile interface.
I do not know what 'very budgets' mean, all i know is that if one person reports them for any type of linking on any porn based site, they would get a boot from most standard advertising networks out there whose ads they show and depend upon for their bread and butter. Hitcross will be left with no money to pay you, what would you do then? Still run around like a brain-washed kid, screaming that you love your HITCROSS ? As for the question with regard to percent of population having mobile phones, can you please tell how much percent of population in Asia and Africa have Internet Enabled Mobiles accessing any technology from among GPRS, EDGE, 3G, WiFi ?? How much percent of such population - owns a mobile phone, knows how to create a site using any wap based site builder BUT does not own a PC. I would like to know these statistics and the origins of such too.


So you should understand - there are old wolfs and starters. Budgets, possibilities and targets are different to both those groups. So I don't know if Hitcross guy is racist (sad to hear that), but you have lack of tolerance too. Try to understand that people, their targets and possibilities are different.
Peace.
p.s. Sorry for annoyance from my side, but it annoys when you are pointing like I am Hitcross owner or something like that.Please explain, what exactly did you mean by 'lack of tolerance' ? I make my posting in the most general manner :) In the larger interest of public, safeguarding them from being cheated, if you brand that as 'lack of tolerance' then I am proud of what I am doing. Just go through your own posts, you would find out who is wailing here :)
Have a nice day, I would only recommend people to stay away from Hitcross. Its an advertising network which depends on other advertising networks out there, the pay is peanuts, the owner of that network "waleed ahmad" is not even a coder, so be careful!

Drakosha
01-15-2011, 07:30 AM
Dear, morse.
You know, you have forced me to browse in web with keyword hitcross, ahmad and so on. I was looking for racism related posts. I haven't found anything - could you tell me more details? Perhaps you was a victim of that racism, that's why you react so personally to my comments. Anyway - racism is bad, and if Hitcross owner insulted somebody on race base - it is not good, he should apologize.
Ironic, but if you live in USA, YOU could be accused for discrimination. You are mocking for my grammar skills, despite you have no any right to do that. Please, express your opinion without personal insulting. You see -there is small difference between us - you live in India, where English is state language. And for me it is not native, it even is not my second language, so I am glad, that I can write in english at all. So do now I can start writing in all forums that you are racist, intolerant to Russian people, because you are calling them "grammatically incorrect"???.:)
You are talking nonsenses just to contradict me. Big networks "might have regarded your 'support' query simply unimportant to even consider?" I am not sure about business ethics in India, but I Europe, and I am sure in USA also, EVERY query of a client is important, and every client is important to solid companies. Especially if that client paid money and didn't get a service of promised quality like me. It's ok to reply later, but it is not to reply never :).

So I don't want to prolong this useless discussion, just to give you one more chance to say something bad about that walled or valed..whatever. You should talk to him directly regarding personal isues. And in forums you should discuss regarding topic, mentioned in forum. My topic was about attracting new visitors with limited budget.
And you are forcing me to plead, that I am not Hitcross owner or I am not a guy working for him. :) Well, sadly I don't think hitcross owner could have enough money to pay me a satisfactory salary. And you know, I am not a guy. So you was wrong in all cases. ;)

morse
01-15-2011, 09:27 AM
Lol, well i explained everything in a lucid manner but seems you are taking stuff personally, okay then lets cut all the crap out, here is just one simple question, answer it instead of giving a 'beat-around-the bush' lecture
"Will you take responsibility if any user here gets cheated by Hitcorss ? Since that site has no physical contact address, will you pay people if they happen to be part of the network and it actually turns out to be a sham."
An answer of "yes" or "no" would be enough, instead of talking all the things in the world which you term as nonsense. :)

Accent
01-15-2011, 06:18 PM
This has gone too far.

Drakosha - I suggest that you do not have to answer. And welcome to Mobility.

Morse - I suggest that you have made your point that you consider that business unreliable.

andymoore
01-16-2011, 12:01 PM
Time for another old wolf to dive in and throw two cents into the mix.

As an ad agency goes I wouldn't touch hitcross if my balls were on fire and they had a bucket of water.

Why?

Take a look at the site, they serve AdMob ads which is enough to set alarm bells ringing, then they're saying something like you can advertise now and pay later which is just asking for bad debt and disgruntled publishers.

The lack of contact details is slick and inspires my lack of trust.

James hit the nail on the head, you want traffic for cheap: SEO.

@accent - Morse has a point, the first post in this thread set my Akismet like spam senses tingling and think something wasn't right.

Look at the history of ad agencies on here, the number of idiots who come along and post a couple of things saying XXXX is great without disclosing they work for XXXX takes the proverbial, I've seen it too many times.

I personally wouldn't touch them: pay us after you advertise is a dangerous policy, bad debt screws businesses with dedicated staff to manage debt, how some half baked and rather amateur looking site with no contact details can do that is impossible. Either that or they inadvertently stumbled on a debt recovery solution to change the world of bad debt.

I could prove a point and advertise hotchats.mobi on it, serve as many ads and get as many clicks as possible then PMSL when the bill comes in. Where would that leave all the publishers who's sites my ad appeared on?

Up **** creek with no paddle.

ChinaMobi
01-16-2011, 06:27 PM
The lack of contact details is slick and inspires my lack of trust.Very much agreed.

morse
01-16-2011, 10:59 PM
Either this chick neringa is in love with the hitcross owner or has a publicity contract with him


mobofree.mobpartner.com/forum_visiteur_comment_en.php?topic_id=4517&deb2=end
web.xtboard.com/forum;thread;it;discussions;vivamob-net-versus-hitcross-com.html?sessid=c1c99b97ae0f113d440e9dd3188f8bfe
gallery.mobile9.com/f/1683114/
wapfa.org/index.php?topic=9770.0
www. howardforums.com/showthread.php/1695456-Cool-tools-for-wapmasters
wapfa.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=9770.0
wap-landz.tk/t/915/please-have-your-say-here.html
gstek.info/forum/index.php?topic=17542.0
webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2OF1nzqDr8EJ:kenyawap.net/t/412/how-to-get-traffic-for-your-wapsite.html+hitcross+vivamob.net&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk
forums.devshed.com/mobile-programming-20/getting-free-traffic-to-mobile-sites-775809.html

As for the racism thing, yes I do not like him calling all Indians as scammers, so in return I brand him as a scammer, but through logical reasoning. Calling somebody gramatically incorrect is not a felony, if it had been, then half of USA blogger s would have been arrested for writing about Sarah Palins newly invented words.
Strangely Vivamob.Net is based in Lithuania and shares the email contact address with mobofree.com i.e. your site. Anyways I would not be required to write about it, the email address might just magically change after this post being read. I have nothing against russians, lithuaninans or even pakistanis (waleed ahmad). And the first language of India is Hindi, My state language is Marathi, English is however spoken widely, that is a different thing.

Bad debt was a great point highlighted by 'old wolf' Andy Moore, It would have been more logical for me to do reasoning based on it, anyways am not as cool as him. :)

morency
01-20-2011, 01:20 PM
Small update :
Mobpartner banner exchange is good only when in India (or in that Zone of Asia) all people sleep :D
I start to use again and every time I analyze my traffic .
so after 2300 my local time (GMT+2) mobpartner start send good traffic from countries like ZA,GB,FR,IT very very less indian traffic... but during the day most traffic is IN,ID,BD ..

:-?

morse
01-21-2011, 12:57 PM
You can send the Indian traffic to me, I found a way to convert their one reg into 2$ equivalent sum lol!

*james*
01-30-2011, 08:51 PM
How?

shoaib
12-05-2012, 10:35 AM
You have only Chance to Create your Social Media profile and Optimize your Web pages. In Image optimization Platfoam Most Of the User Use Flicker.com for Images optimize.
Second Option you have Twitter most Important for Social Sharing Now Google+ Lunch for Social Sharing..

ANGELA Mathews
01-17-2013, 06:21 AM
Mobile SEO - not easy to make this work though especially with a mobile-only site

I totally agree with you!

Revived Media
02-13-2013, 02:23 AM
Here is a 6,417 word blog post on how to make money with your own apps. A lot of diversified methods for getting traffic and eyeballs to your app without breaking the bank

Just google imobitrax and type in "app" in the search box, you'll see the guide. (Sorry I can't post links)