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newdomainer
01-31-2010, 09:19 AM
saturday.mobi didn't throw up any results on the search.... so I voted for the other one. But!! without meaning any offence; if these are the best sites being put forward for "motm" I think we should consider scrapping the poll entirely......
Before anyone suggests I should build a better site if I'm so smart.... I've already thought about whether I have the right to criticise.... and I decided that I'm happy to take that responsibility ;-)

MOTM should be a showcase for the best, groundbreaking made for mobile sites; exciting, inventive, clever, intuitive, artistic, creative, mind-blowing, bold, helpful, profitable, merchandising, promotional, educational, more-ish / addictive...... all things that I'm not seeing right now... we have (had?) a lot of talent on this forum... where is it?

coast
01-31-2010, 02:05 PM
Thank you for including Leucadia .mobi in the poll! Congratulations on Saturday .mobi's nomination, too!

Normally I wouldn't write anything other than "thank you," but I do want to address NewDomainer's concerns if I may.


saturday.mobi didn't throw up any results on the search.... so I voted for the other one. But!! without meaning any offence; if these are the best sites being put forward for "motm" I think we should consider scrapping the poll entirely......
Before anyone suggests I should build a better site if I'm so smart.... I've already thought about whether I have the right to criticise.... and I decided that I'm happy to take that responsibility ;-)

MOTM should be a showcase for the best, groundbreaking made for mobile sites; exciting, inventive, clever, intuitive, artistic, creative, mind-blowing, bold, helpful, profitable, merchandising, promotional, educational, more-ish / addictive...... all things that I'm not seeing right now... we have (had?) a lot of talent on this forum... where is it?

Gary, I apologize to you and anyone else who does not think that Leucadia .mobi is good enough to be nominated. I'm not a full-scale graphics designer, so it's not as cool looking as some of the other sites we've seen, I admit that readily.

The beauty of that site, in my opinion, is its simplicity. It provides what people would need quickly on the go, without pinching and scrolling, and without a lot of extras that are just fluff. The Congressman who represents that part of California added it to his links page, without any input from me, and it does get Google traffic for local searches.

It's a simple site, but it did take some research to make it useful. It takes a lot of clicks through the pages of the government websites to find out some of these phone numbers. Those .gov pages aren't very mobile friendly. Directory assistance charges a dollar per phone number. This site helps people avoid paying that because I hand-coded all of the click-to-call numbers and other mobile site links. I took the pictures myself, I wrote the code, I visited with business owners and added some additional features to make it a quick site for people who want to know the basics. If you notice, the links page has other .mobi sites on them, intentionally, to cross-promote .mobi. The important pages that are not mobile were further coded to go through mowser so people without smartphones can see them.

There are also plans for future information to be added, but for now, it is an informative site that helps people get the basics about this little coastal town.

Hopefully that sheds some light on the work that goes into a site like this. Thanks for allowing me to respond.

newdomainer
01-31-2010, 06:30 PM
Hi Coast,

Don't get me wrong; both sites are ok, they are what they are & many hundreds of thousands of mobi sites will be similar (i.e. similar kind of template / operability; just change the name of the location or service to suit anywhere on the planet..)

My gripe is that I believe that MOTM should showcase something new each month - and as important as these two sites are to their creators & of course their (local) target markets, they are not ground-breaking sites..... (& that isn't meant to devalue them in any way)....

I think MOTM should draw from the global 'pool' of mobi sites including corporate offerings...... if we want to win hearts & minds we need a change of strategy; one that offers the "Wow" factor.... I'm talking the kind of sites that have had big-budgets and cutting edge development....

coast
01-31-2010, 06:39 PM
It's my understanding that the purpose of MotM is to encourage development of mobile sites by members of this forum. If you are proposing mobility to take on a larger role on the world stage by including every mobile site developed by every company on every TLD, start a poll in a new thread and see what the members think. Maybe they'll agree with you and we'll change it.

acc
01-31-2010, 07:12 PM
My understanding is that MOTM was started to shocase this forum's MEMBERS' mobi sites as to encourage development of their mobi domains. MOTM site nomination guidelines require them be new sites so these sites inherently do not have the benefits of months and years of growth and refinements.

The dotMobi registry's mtld.mobi site has a mobi site showcase and featured site (of the month?). Maybe ultimately as the scope of the forum expands as planned there can be two categories here at mobility (member and non-member mobi site awards) if the forum wants to take on that additional role.

gogo
01-31-2010, 07:21 PM
I thought the voting threads were to be locked so all discussion would be separate from voting? This was discussed elsewhere before. Some of this, including this post, could be moved elsewhere.

Good luck to the nominees.

PS see http://mobility.mobi/showpost.php?p=136485&postcount=25

newdomainer
01-31-2010, 07:27 PM
It's my understanding that the purpose of MotM is to encourage development of mobile sites by members of this forum. If you are proposing mobility to take on a larger role on the world stage by including every mobile site developed by every company on every TLD, start a poll in a new thread and see what the members think. Maybe they'll agree with you and we'll change it.


You should know me better than that; One rule that I wouldn't change Coast.... it would have to be a dotmobi "mobile" site..... nothing else would do! :smile:

I guess I'm just feeling a bit jaded right now... interest in the forum seems to be waning somewhat, we're promised great things by mtld and we all wait patiently for those... I've noticed that mobility has gone very quiet recently; it doesn't make me feel great - especially when you don't have to look too far away for some really positive stuff about 'mobile' in general.... it is the zeitgeist of modern media; the buzzword is mobile! - Freeflow posted a great link earlier today for example http://mobility.mobi/showthread.php?t=49014

...... so I ask; what the ---- (insert appropriate 4 letter word) is going down with dotmobi? I'm really quite bamboozled! :dontknow:

newdomainer
01-31-2010, 07:31 PM
I thought the voting threads were to be locked so all discussion would be separate from voting? This was discussed elsewhere before. Some of this, including this post, could be moved elsewhere.

Good luck to the nominees.

That wouldn't be a bad idea.... to start a new thread.....

I recall, not so long ago, a time when there was a battle to be submitted for MOTM and a genuine interest in the poll..... the last few months have been disappointing if I may say so without offending anyone..... :embarassed:

Dave
01-31-2010, 11:17 PM
It's my understanding that the purpose of MotM is to encourage development of mobile sites by members of this forum.

:bingo:

Dave
01-31-2010, 11:19 PM
That wouldn't be a bad idea.... to start a new thread.....

I recall, not so long ago, a time when there was a battle to be submitted for MOTM and a genuine interest in the poll..... the last few months have been disappointing if I may say so without offending anyone..... :embarassed:

Looks like you'll just need to step in to fill the void with a remarkabley well-done .mobi! :popcorn:

Scandiman
01-31-2010, 11:32 PM
saturday.mobi didn't throw up any results on the search.... so I voted for the other one. But!! without meaning any offence; if these are the best sites being put forward for "motm" I think we should consider scrapping the poll entirely......
Before anyone suggests I should build a better site if I'm so smart.... I've already thought about whether I have the right to criticise.... and I decided that I'm happy to take that responsibility ;-)

MOTM should be a showcase for the best, groundbreaking made for mobile sites; exciting, inventive, clever, intuitive, artistic, creative, mind-blowing, bold, helpful, profitable, merchandising, promotional, educational, more-ish / addictive...... all things that I'm not seeing right now... we have (had?) a lot of talent on this forum... where is it?

As others have noted, MOTM is about the recent development activities of Mobility members. I agree it would be best if the MOTM winner represents "the best, groundbreaking made for mobile sites; exciting, inventive, clever, intuitive, artistic, creative, mind-blowing, bold, helpful, profitable, merchandising, promotional, educational, more-ish / addictive." Get busy.



I guess I'm just feeling a bit jaded right now... interest in the forum seems to be waning somewhat, we're promised great things by mtld and we all wait patiently for those... I've noticed that mobility has gone very quiet recently; it doesn't make me feel great - especially when you don't have to look too far away for some really positive stuff about 'mobile' in general.... it is the zeitgeist of modern media; the buzzword is mobile!

...... so I ask; what the ---- (insert appropriate 4 letter word) is going down with dotmobi? I'm really quite bamboozled! :dontknow:

Speaking for myself my interest in .mobi hasn't changed nor has my optimism and commitment to using .mobi to build great mobile websites. But there's only so many hours in the day and these days I'm working about 14 of those hours on a regular basis for various projects. So don't confuse quietness with lack of enthusiasm, and for goodness sake, I highly suggest you stop looking to dotmobi for the answers to what ails your .mobi investments, look to the mirror and tell that guy to get busy building at least one of the best, groundbreaking made for mobile sites; exciting, inventive, clever, intuitive, artistic, creative, mind-blowing, bold, helpful, profitable, merchandising, promotional, educational, more-ish / addictive.

coast
01-31-2010, 11:40 PM
Ok, NewDomainer, you asked for it LOL. Now get busy and make a site that will knock us all off our feet. I'll be the first to submit it to the MotM thread.

There is nothing anyone else is going to do to raise the value of your portfolio or increase the activity on this forum or cause mTLD to switch directions - it's just you and the code, my friend, that's all. There is no secret and no shortcut. Develop, develop, develop.

newton
01-31-2010, 11:50 PM
Since I am always the best man and never the groom, its down to you Chris lol

proton
02-01-2010, 04:06 AM
Saturday.mobi is currently only US. That may be the issue. The business value of our site is the web app that allows businesses to update their ad 24/7 along with a mobile coupon. Oh and the instant text message function when one of your favorite places updates their ad or coupon. That said good luck to you and your bicycle built for two. Happy riding. (There is another version of that saying but I'm trying my best to be civil at what I view as a quite condescending and rather ignorant post.)

newdomainer
02-01-2010, 09:29 AM
Saturday.mobi is currently only US. That may be the issue. The business value of our site is the web app that allows businesses to update their ad 24/7 along with a mobile coupon. Oh and the instant text message function when one of your favorite places updates their ad or coupon. That said good luck to you and your bicycle built for two. Happy riding. (There is another version of that saying but I'm trying my best to be civil at what I view as a quite condescending and rather ignorant post.)

As I made clear earlier; no offence was implied or intended.... I am in the UK but I tried Saturday.mobi out by using searches for restaurants / bars in New York & Michigan and didn't get any results... my apologies if that was due to my location rather than a technical issue....

I'm not wishing to undermine anyones efforts - I am not a developer myself and don't have the time to start doing it now.... nor do I believe that will answer any questions; the success of dotmobi lies with the corporates... which again is not down to mobility members.

I was just voicing my opinion that I was disappointed (& have been for some time) with the range of sites submitted for MOTM - if you want a concise answer; it's the sites that haven't been submitted that disappoint me...... where are they all? :hmmmm2:

proton
02-01-2010, 02:19 PM
I'm fine with your opinion. We're all entitled to our own. Tangible recommendation for improvement I think goes over better than sweeping generalizations. We're all fairly thick skinned around here, so no offense taken. That said, I can't imagine you didn't expect just a bit of return fire. :biggrin: I wish you luck with your efforts and I mean that sincerely.

proton
02-01-2010, 02:52 PM
Here's a good way to show some love, become a Fan of Saturday.mobi :)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Saturdaymobi/194481005875?ref=nf

newdomainer
02-01-2010, 03:05 PM
Here's a good way to show some love, become a Fan of Saturday.mobi :)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Saturdaymobi/194481005875?ref=nf


Done :coo2l:

miellas
02-01-2010, 10:13 PM
Hey everyone,

I was under the impression that according to the mobi of the month rules a nominated site owner had to be a member who had never previously won a mobi of the month award prior. Is this still in effect?

Andres Kello
02-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Hey everyone,

I was under the impression that according to the mobi of the month rules a nominated site owner had to be a member who had never previously won a mobi of the month award prior. Is this still in effect?That's not correct. The owner doesn't matter, the site does. In other words, a site that has already won cannot be nominated again, but an owner can.


Also folks, expect more competition once we expand the forum and the MotM beyond .mobi.

Mobistro
02-08-2010, 05:03 AM
Thanks for including both the sites but there are many more .mobi sites similar to these but lucky enough to be included. I find both the sites OK!!!

rob
02-08-2010, 03:53 PM
http://bmx.mobi/ohno1.gif

mjnels
02-08-2010, 04:06 PM
i like it..

proton
02-09-2010, 04:59 PM
Thanks for including both the sites but there are many more .mobi sites similar to these but lucky enough to be included. I find both the sites OK!!!

Go back to eating your glue. For that matter, what is your point?

hunkydorey
02-14-2010, 10:04 AM
He's ######### Right

hunkydorey
02-14-2010, 10:08 AM
I think all of us here should aim to have at least 30% of our names developed by September otherwise drop them, aim for 50% next year and 90% ( 100 is not realistic) within 4 years !!!

Am I'm meeting 30% ...yes I am :-)